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Hey guys. What the heck is going on?

Postby Mustang80 » Fri Aug 17, 2018 3:14 am

I don't live in the great UP anymore. Just logged on to see what's in store for this year and see that the Mid-Pen is gone? What happened? *
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Re: Hey guys. What the heck is going on?

Postby Hambone » Fri Aug 17, 2018 7:43 am

MPC joined the West PAC to form a super conference to insure teams were able to schedule nine games, wrecking a bunch of rivalries in the process.
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Re: Hey guys. What the heck is going on?

Postby GNCrocks » Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:14 am

Top 10 Time Line on how this happened in last year & half:
1. Gladstone struggled to win games in the GNC, not due to talent or coaching, but AD & poor parents driving a bad culture.
2. Soo joins GNC
3. Weak willed AD Matt Houle moves Gladstone to the Mid-Pen in 2017 be cause "they can't win" and he feels Gladstone is more of a "Class C" school. Manistique (AD is close friend with Matt Houle) is the deciding vote to allow Gladstone in MidPen.
4. Matt Houle resigns as AD after signing Gladstone into the MidPen
5. Gladstone SMOKES most of the Mid-Pen in Football games in 2017.
6. Pissed OFF Mid-Pen schools BOLT to joinn the West Pac. This leaves Gladstone and Manistique as lone schools in the mid-pen.
7. Manistique facing being Independent, Joining Northern Michican Legacy or GNC, bid last minute to Join new SUPER WEST PAC+ and is approved narrowly.
8. GNC attempts SUPER CONF with Gaylord, Cadillac and Grayling. AD's on board but Gaylord Superintendent says no and it falls apart. Soo would only stay in Super GNC
9. Super GNC idea fails and Soo leaves to go Independent.
10. GNC welcomes back Gladstone to GNC for 2018.
HERE WE ARE.

*This whole thing put Gladstone back 3/5 years, but they have a new AD and a great Football coach so they have the right people in place now. Just need to change the culture of "poor us" from parents and old Houle thinking ways.
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Re: Hey guys. What the heck is going on?

Postby haulpack » Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:52 am

5. Gladstone SMOKES most of the Mid-Pen in Football games in 2017.
6. Pissed OFF Mid-Pen schools BOLT to joinn the West Pac. This leaves Gladstone and Manistique as lone schools in the mid-pen.

Do your really believe that nonsense. :lol: joining the West Pac ensured no open dates on the schedule, losing to a very good Gladstone last season didnt piss anybody off.
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Re: Hey guys. What the heck is going on?

Postby haulpack » Sat Aug 18, 2018 10:10 am

Mustang80 wrote:I don't live in the great UP anymore. Just logged on to see what's in store for this year and see that the Mid-Pen is gone? What happened? *


Hello M80 old pal,nice to hear from you :P,when did you sell your house on the shore of Teal Lake and move?and where.new season,new enthusiasm for OUR Miners! :P
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Postby GNCrocks » Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:40 am

haulpack wrote:5. Gladstone SMOKES most of the Mid-Pen in Football games in 2017.
6. Pissed OFF Mid-Pen schools BOLT to joinn the West Pac. This leaves Gladstone and Manistique as lone schools in the mid-pen.

Do your really believe that nonsense. :lol: joining the West Pac ensured no open dates on the schedule, losing to a very good Gladstone last season didnt piss anybody off.


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A good COACHED team, decent talent, and beat up on a bunch of class C schools.
You obviousness missed most of the real world discussion on here and what happened in reality.
But maybe the PAPER wins and PAPER playoff appearance will help build on something cause they have a great coach and not the family pass down coaching staff that didn't know the sport; and now a real AD that is not the worlds biggest crybaby and who is the most hated person in UP Football; I do have hope for Gladstone's future if they can build on it, and Honestly hope they do.
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Re: Hey guys. What the heck is going on?

Postby frogyakker » Fri Aug 24, 2018 8:22 am

Morning all!

It's football time! Even as the landscape of the game in some instances has changed and some rivalries are no more, it's still a fun time of the year. May all teams have healthy and successful seasons. While some traditions are gone, maybe new ones will be formed as time goes on. Enjoy the games...I will. Even if you are still mad at the changes made remember those were made by adults, not the players. Root for your team as you have been..the kids deserve it.

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Postby upfootball » Fri Aug 24, 2018 10:21 am

frogyakker wrote:Enjoy the games...I will. Even if you are still mad at the changes made remember those were made by adults, not the players. Root for your team as you have been..the kids deserve it.

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Well said. Making sure your actions are always for the kids is great advice for anyone.
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Re: Hey guys. What the heck is going on?

Postby GNCrocks » Fri Aug 24, 2018 11:11 am

Well said Froggy
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Postby TBC » Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:32 am

Great comment Frog Yakker. While there is no doubt this change has some negatives attached to it, there are benefits as well. The reality is that the UP population is declining, enrollment is declining in all areas, and changes are going to happen. I would say that it goes back a lot farther than Gladstone moving conferences. Less kids in sports overall, other sports such as soccer, etc.. Also, all of the smaller schools going to 8-man started a shift in conferences, schedules, etc... A lot of people came on this board and complained about that also. “It’s not real football”. How many times have we heard that? I’m sure the kids felt great reading that. However, just because we all want strong 11 man football to remain, doesn’t mean it’s possible. A lot of those programs that are in 8-man would just be forfeiting games otherwise. Now kids from theses programs in the west pac can come on this board and read about how they are playing watered down football and easy schedules. I’m sure that’s helping. Good football is still happening all over the U.P. It may not be the same, but it doesn’t mean you can’t enjoy it. There are still a bunch of kids working hard every day and putting forth their best effort on Friday nights.
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Re: Hey guys. What the heck is going on?

Postby upfootball » Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:57 pm

I think we all agree we feel bad for the kids. Some of us just disagree as to who is really looking out for them. Most of the decisions made to go to 8 man were with the kids best interest in mind (only way a lot of those schools have a team at all). The decision to force the WestPAC as a closed conference and eliminate rivalry games were not in the best interest of the kids. They were in the best interest of the adults.
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